In addition to the PlayStation-exclusive Death Stranding 2: On the Beach, Hideo Kojima’s Kojima Productions is making the Xbox-exclusive OD. In a new interview, the legendary game designer shared a small morsel about OD, referring to the game as “risky.”

He told Variety he wanted to work on a game outside the Death Stranding series, so he partnered with Microsoft for OD. “This is a game, but it’s a game like no other. I can’t go into too much detail, and it’s also hard to explain,” he said. “But it’s a bit risky and a new challenge for me within the realm of games.”

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